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May 14: Council Adopts Three Items Supporting City Hall Defense and Advocacy On Airport Noise Ordinance; We Provide Transcript Excerpts

Additional verbiage suggested by resident may be brought up for future discussion


(May 19, 2002) -- The City Council at its May 14th meeting unanimously adopted three items supporting City Hall's defense and advocacy positions on LB's Airport Noise Compatibility ordinance.

Councilman Rob Webb sought to include additional verbiage proposed by a constituent, but City Attorney Bob Shannon counseled against doing so on grounds he hadn't previously seen the language. The Mayor told Councilman Webb he could raise the issues at a subsequent meeting.

All three items passed 9-0 as originally proposed. The items were jointly agendized by Councilmembers Jackie Kell, Rob Webb, Dennis Carroll and Frank Colonna.

The first item, a request for a report on environmental issues, was introduced by Councilman Dennis Carroll in a lawyerly but impassioned and eloquent presentation. The item echoed concerns voiced by the public in two well-attended City Hall convened meetings earlier this month in Los Altos and Bixby Knolls. It requested a report from the City Manager and City Attorney on environmental issues pertaining to LB Airport, including an analysis of environmental effects and property value impacts of 41 commercial flights [over 75,000 pounds].

Two other items were Council resolutions, one reiterating support for LB's Airport Noise Compatibility Ordinance and flight slot limits, and another supporting LB lobbying efforts to preserve and maintain them.

The resolutions are legally non-binding but demonstrate the Council's unity on the subject matter. Councilmembers Webb and Colonna indicated they would take the resolutions to Washington, D.C. for meetings later in the week with federal officials.

The resolutions had already been put into legal form by the City Attorney's office when the Council voted on them. As first reported by LBReport.com on May 9, the items were agendized using "placeholder" memoranda and the actual proposed resolution text was subsequently provided to the City Clerk on May 13 and posted by LBReport.com within hours of its public release.

At the Council meeting, Mayor O'Neill announced that all three items would be discussed collectively, limiting detailed public testimony on each item. (The Council can override such rulings by the Mayor but no Councilmember moved to do so.)

Speakers from ELB and Bixby Knolls echoed views expressed at the Bixby Knolls area community meeting, urging City Hall to stop marketing the airport. One of the speakers urged the Airport to begin imposing charges on Airlines to the fullest extent it can. The Mayor later indicated the city is no longer marketing the airport was it previously did.

5th district Councilwoman Jackie Kell acknowledged and invited to the podium Mr. Curt Castagna, a member of LB's Airport Area Business Council, a committee of the LB Area Chamber of Commerce, whom the Mayor permitted to speak first among public participants. Mr. Castagna, who operates Aeroplex Aviation, supported upholding LB's current Airport Noise Compatibility ordinance and flight slot limits. As to studying additional EIR measures or other possible actions by the Council, "we would only be concerned about if it took that local control away from you."

Other members of the public were then allowed to speak. Several urged the Council to include references to air pollution impacts in the resolutions and make other modifications; a number of speakers supported conducting a fullblown EIR on airport impacts.

8th district Councilman Rob Webb sought to incorporate suggestions offered by constituent John Deats, but City Attorney Bob Shannon counseled against this, and saying he hadn't seen the verbiage beforehand urged the Council to adopt the resolutions as presented.

After the Mayor suggested Councilman Webb could raise the verbiage in the future, Webb moved the resolution as presented.

All three items passed 9-0. We have posted the actual resolutions and the request for a report verbatim on links at the conclusion of this article.

Our transcript excerpts follow. Text is unofficial. Not all speakers or their comments are reproduced. [Begin text]

Councilman Dennis Carroll

...We the citizens of Long Beach are on the leading edge of a storm being visited upon us by way of our airport. It has been raging through Los Angeles, the city, the county, Orange County, San Diego County and frankly at the national level as well...

It is my view that we cannot afford to batten down the hatches and hide in the cellar and hope that it passes. We have been through this traumatic incident before. There was about eleven years of litigation involving not only air carriers and the city but our own citizens, 1600 of whom brought suit against the city on the basis that their lives were substantially disrupted. And I hope to present a part of that case this evening.

...One of the critical issues is the location of the airport. Unfortunately, it happens to be in the middle of our city. I do not know how many other cities find themselves in this circumstance but there are neighborhoods that have grown up and developed, and Los Altos is the one I will be speaking on behalf of tonight, that are inordinately impacted.

The problem with an airport from the perspective of the person representing Los Altos is the benefits, to the extent they exist, are widely dispersed throughout the city and principally those are benefits of convenience for our citizens who can take planes in and out of Long Beach as well as the economic dimensions of it, but the burdens are borne by a select few, those immediately under the flight path, either coming in or going out.

It is my belief that those burdens can become so substantial that not only the health of our citizens there can be compromised, but ultimately the economic base which supports those two communities, that is Los Altos and we'll here about Cal Heights from Councilman Webb, can become blighted. That is, the burden can become such that people who have the ability to move, and those people do, will, blight is not something that could be contained and it will spread if it happened, and I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that from happening, not only through Los Altos but up into the 5th district, down into the 3d district.

And it is my hope that this process will begin to educate our citizens that everyone has a stake in this issue. It is a fight that we need to no more move away from but need to actively move into...

[Councilman Carroll discusses Federal Court of Appeal ruling on LB Airport, citing part of the Appeal Court's opinion]...a local airport should be allowed, the court concluded, to enact noise ordinances if it has a rational belief that, number one, the ordinance will reduce the possibility of liability, that is the citizens suing the city because of excessive noise, or enhanced quality of the city's human environment.

And that is the dimension that I would like to explore tonight, and my request by way of this agenda item, concerns itself.

It is my belief that limiting this discussion to noise does a great disservice to the human dimensions of this issue. We know that noise is an important dimension of it but other aspects of it may be at least as important if not more important.

Not the least of which is the nature of the particulates that are spewed out into the atmosphere by the jet fuel. The soot that my neighbors will tell you they hose off their patio furniture in the backyard and their cars and kills their lemon trees. The items, and believe it or not ice even occasionally will fall off a jet plane.

The economic impact, which is argued and used as a justification for our city's airport, I'm sure there are economic benefits, from my perspective has not put into the equation the impact on the surrounding neighborhoods in terms of its effect on property values, on the health of the people that live there, on the safety of the children, and I have two schools in the fourth district, each of them have between 700 and a 1,000 children. Those planes fly over and you can count the rivets when they go over. Class stops when the planes go over. And parents have to make decisions about whether they want to keep their children in those schools when our flights are programmed to increase from 15 up to 41. Do they want to remodel their homes, or get out while the getting's good?

These economic and basic fundamental life decisions that all families have to make are under a terrific cloud at this time. And I urge that we do several things...With respect to my part of it, I'm asking for a preliminary report. I'm not asking for an Environmental Impact Report yet. This is the first step. That preliminary report would address several things.

Number one: with respect to a full on Environmental Impact Report, what is the cost of it? The last time we did one on our airport case it was $500,000. We have an update from 1997 that is very helpful to us but doesn't contain everything that I think is germane and relevant to this conversation.

Number two, how long would it take to prepare one?

Number three, who are the persons who are most qualified, who are expert in providing that information to us? I would like to hear from the City Manager and Mr. Shannon, and I would hope within 30 to 45 days, their opinions with respect to that issue, and perhaps include some of these items that we have discussed that may not be directly involved in an Environmental Impact Report, that is the economic dimensions of this problem, and perhaps some of the health issues that could be studied, bring in studies from other cities.

So my request at this time is to get this preliminary report, to put everyone no notice that we are taking an aggressive, proactive stance here. We are not simply going to sit and hope for the best. There's no reason we should.

We have what I judge to be strong, equitable arguments to not only preserve our current noise ordinance but to bring within that current ordinance as suggested by the court [of appeal] that final paragraph with respect to enhancing the quality of the city's human environment.

What I would like to see, and what the law has not fully cognized at this point is a Human Impact Report, and that's what we're really dealing with here...We are working night and day on this issue and will continue to do so until it's resolved on human terms.

Councilman Rob Webb

...That school where [a recent community meeting] was held [in the 4th district], Minnie Gant school, is directly under the flight [path]...being a parent of kid that is in the Minnie Gant school with 41 flights coming over is certainly a concern that I don't believe was addressed previously, I don't think the full effects of the environmental effects of that were addressed, not to mention LB State [University], and you look of course Longfellow [Elementary School] and Hughes Middle School, and the schools that are on the takeoff path, once again we [in the 8th district] have a more widely distributed area that is affected. I would certainly, if I was a parent of that school, Minnie Gant, where that meeting was held, where those flights are coming directly over the house, I would be certainly very concerned.

And secondly, there have been a lot of studies that the AQMD has done, studies about Multiple Airborne Toxic Exposure, that was not brought up in the original EIR...I think it's good that these items are being addressed...

Councilwoman Jackie Kell

I want to make it perfectly plain, if I may use that word, and state up front that my position on maintaining our noise ordinance and flight limits has not changed throughout my term on the City Council. My aim with this agenda item is to publicly restate our commitment as a City Council to maintain our current airport noise ordinance and flight slot limits of 41...[Councilwoman Kell asks to hear from Airport Manager Chris Kunze and from Chris Kunze of Chamber of Commerce Airport Area Business Council, both in attendance.]

LB Airport Manager Chris Kunze

...As you know, the airport is totally surrounded by residential areas. There's no way to fly in or out of the airport without overflight of those areas which includes schools and churches as well.

I think the resolutions before you tonight very well state the Long Beach community's history of finding the appropriate balance between commerce, air transportation and also quality of life. This balance was determined through years of litigation and a settlement agreement. The end result is well pinioned in environmental law from my perspective and it does permit enhanced levels of air transportation service and economic contribution from our airport.

Importantly, this balanced role for the airport has been grandfathered within federal law which would have otherwise made local self-determination very difficult, and it has been embraced by the community by its adoption within the city's strategic plan...

Councilman Frank Colonna

My Council colleagues have pointed this out very clearly, giving not only historical perspective but I think just the general overview of the direction of the City Council.

I think what's interesting to point out as well that it's no secret that our neighbors to the south voted to dismiss the opportunity of developing an airport in El Toro. And I would like to think that that was the will of the people in the Orange County area because they were concerned about their quality of life, Irvine, Newport Beach and many of the other cities clearly spoke out that they didn't want any airport development to impact their communities.

And I feel that historically, our city has done a lot of heavy lifting for the region and we will probably continue to do so in a lot of ways. But I think that it's also time to establish the fact that we have done all we can do in terms of what we have agreed to do with the number of flights at our particular airport.

And I think it's important as Councilmember Carroll pointed out that we deal not only with the noise issues but also the other factors that come into play when you deal with a significant amount of airline traffic that's coming into a community.

It was mentioned to me earlier this week about the fact that for many years we're wanting to develop more business opportunity and airline interest in Long Beach. It's kind of interesting now that we've become a very popular entity, that we have numerous suitors.

But if you take a look at the history of where we have come now, we have maximized development at the airport in terms of the ability to reconstruct which we have done. We've got newer facilities at the airport...But I think at this point along with the other Councilmembers that have spoke on, the 3d district, the far corner over the Bixby Hill area and Cal State Long Beach, plus Kettering Junior High School, I think we've got issues that are bottom line human impact and I think that's a big, big factor for us.

And I'm very much supportive of the direction that we are taking and will continue to take with this and I'm very pleased to know that our entire Council is finally bringing this to the forefront, and dealing with it openly now before we have challenges placed in front of us.

Vice Mayor Dan Baker

I'm going to be supporting my colleagues this evening. As you can see from the map, the 2d district isn't really impacted by the airport, but we have a very similar issue with noise and pollution and the many health risks coming from our Port. That's something that my residents in the downtown area and those on the west side of the city have been dealing with for a number of years, and they really are very similar issues.

So I appreciate Councilmember Carroll and the rest of them looking for the information on what really is the result of that airport, what's happening to our residents. To me, the most important issue that we need to focus on is maintaining local control. The more that we do to make sure that it's very clear that we're not going to let anybody else come in here and tell us what to do with our airport, the better off we are. So I will definitely be supporting all three of these items this evening.

Councilman Ray Grabinski

...[T]he question becomes not flights or planes or anything else, it's health and safety. It's not just local control...

...We were showing one of the Congressmen about fifteen years ago on the floor of his office what a bullseye airport was. We spread out a map of Long Beach. This bullseye airport is right in the center of half a million people. There are no good places around this airport to land an aircraft in trouble. If someone else has trouble even from another airport we have some real serious problems.

So managing the growth is one thing, but making sure that people understand that already in the west side of Long Beach we have young people who, it's documented, are sick more than any other kids in the city of Long Beach, documented by Long Beach Unified School district. Now I don't think those parents, and I don't think we care, whether it's the oil refineries, the boats in the harbor, the trucks on the freeway, or the aircraft who cause the problem. I think our obligation is to make sure that we don't let the problem get worse.

Because one of the things that didn't come up in the conversation here is that the kids in Long Beach go to school everywhere in Long Beach. They can live in east Long Beach and they go to a westside school, and vice versa, and we need to remember that. This is no longer a district issue. This is an issue, because of us busing kids all around the city, this is just a quality of life issue and the safety issue, and I think this is a really good start on it...
...

Mayor Beverly O'Neill

I think that you have heard that the Council in item 17 [request for the report] is pretty much in concurrence on the ask for a report on the impact on the quality of life, and on 27 and 28 [the resolutions] also limiting the flights to 41, and on 28 to use this as a resolution for lobbying efforts in Washington.

So I'm going to ask the people that are going to speak to speak on all of them at once. We will take them in three separate items but I'd like to start with Curt Castagna to speak first, and just know that if you're trying to talk people into it, they're already talked into it. OK.

Curt Castagna

Thank you for allowing me to address you tonight. This month is actually the 7th anniversary of your Council's prudent decision to settle the 12 years of litigation and securing control of the airport. Previously, I sent you some communication in support of that effort and I will just read briefly...

The Airport Area Business Council, a Chamber of Commerce Committee, actually is made up of many of [LB's] good corporate citizens...and we hope to continue our effort to work with Council and staff and try to maintain the balance that you spoke of.

I'm here tonight to ask you to uphold the Airport Noise Compatibility Ordinance and the current airline flight slot limitations. We offer you support and any help that we can do as resources to continue that effort.

The City of LB has a very unique airport in a region that it's proud and serves adequately a mix of facets of aviation including manufacturing, commercial airlines, corporate and business aviation and light private general aviation, and our airport is home to over 200 businesses, providing that significant impact that you spoke of, and we understand the sensitivity of operating in the balance.

And we believe that the ordinance that you have in place provides security and local control...and some of the considerations, studying additional EIR measures or other possible actions by your Council, we would only be concerned about if it took that local control away from you...

Gigi Fast Elk Bannister

...I'm speaking on behalf of my company, Production Magic, Inc...As a licensed, home based business operator, I wish to respectfully request that the city consider initiating an Environmental Impact Report with regard to the Long Beach airport and the related daily flights.

...Our house was built in 1947, one of the first on the block, and since 1949 it has been the Bannister home in which [husband] Reggie grew up. It is not simply a matter of merely being able to discard 51 years of family memories when in fact the Airport has changed so dramatically in that time...

...We respectfully request that an Environmental Impact Report be conducted to determine the current impact of flights upon businesses and residents in the existing flight path and that the EIR should include, and not be limited to, air quality, noise level and duration of said levels, particulate fallout from aircraft contrails, noise occurrences which is the intervals of the flights, and soil and surface sampling testing.

John Deats

Special thanks to the four of you who brought these items forward, and thanks and applause to the rest of you, I guess it's going to pass unanimously.

I'd like to see you do a fullblown EIR as quickly as you can, realizing there are budgetary constraints and this is a good start what you've asked for tonight, Dennis.

Regarding agenda item 27 [resolution affirming support for LB Airport noise compatibility ordinance], I give you some written information suggesting you delete reference to anything to do with SCAG [Southern California Association of Governments]...The [SCAG] information is now dated, that was done before the El Toro vote, I don't think you want to yield any of your authority to SCAG. In fact, now turning to agenda item 28 [supporting city lobbying efforts], what you need to do is not only protect and uphold your current noise compatibility ordinance, you want to maximize local control. You don't want to just protect words on paper, you want to protect real people. You want to protect kids. You want to protect senior citizens.

Toward that end, I have given you in writing three additional "whereases." Defending your ordinance is necessary but it's not sufficient to mount a winning argument in my opinion in DC...

And if you'll look at the backup material that I have given you that's titled "EPA Environmental Justice links," you might be surprised to find that President Clinton issued an Executive Order talking about Environmental Justice which lo and behold, surprising to me, was recently validated and upheld by the Bush administration...

Quite candidly, there's a very good study that was mentioned last week when our appeal hearing [on separate land use issue re container storage] was heard called MATES-2 performed by AQMD. [LBReport.com coverage, on front page under News In Depth, at AQMD Study Estimates Air in Much of LB Carries Higher Cancer Risk Than Refinery-Adjacent Areas; See Map Estimating Cancer Risk From Multiple Air Toxics] I was not previously aware of that. You saw [ECO-link chair] Diana Mann carry a map down here to the podium, and that was a result of that MATES-2 study [showing] graphically our air quality makes us look like the Black Hole of Calcutta. Don't exacerbate it...

Traci Wilson-Kleekamp

...The number one illness that children are suffering in this city is asthma, and the number one illness that children are suffering in [zip code] 90803 is asthma, and that's without the 41 flights and that's with unbridled growth at the Port. And we can treat it clinically, but we have to treat it with policy as well...

Jeanie Williams

...Thank you, finally, after all these years that we are united on this, and the effect of the environment on the communities of Long Beach, stay united...I felt it was necessary to come down here and speak because just to reinforce...[T]his is a statement from Dr. Pamela Kushner, who was unable to attend tonight. She is a state representative of the CA Academy of Family Physicians. She also was the first female physician to be appointed president of the LB Medical Board. And her statement is...:

I am sorry I cannot attend tonight. I am concerned about the high asthma, allergies and childhood cancer rates in this community, and feel an environmental health impact study should be performed...
...

Mike Donelon

...This feels kind of like deja vu for me. I've been involved in this issue for many years...I support the Council's efforts at putting our ducks in a row, if I may call it that, to defend what I believe is going to be an eventual legal battle over our ordinance. And I think we must be very, very aggressive in preparing to take it to the mat because I think that's exactly where it's going to go.

I also support the process leading to the EIR that will clearly show the negative impact on our neighborhoods that surround the airport...

Carol Soccio [sp]

The noise is horrendous...My concern, after listening to the meeting last week at Hughes Middle School is that if we take the pile of apples and pull one apple out that we're going to upset the whole stack.

Councilman Carroll suggested a preliminary report, and I think that is in everybody's best interest...I fully support the 41 flight limit. I've had it with just 19 just from the noise standpoint but also the measure of safety, as Councilmember Grabinski pointed out...

Ron Beagle [sp]

...I'm actually a new resident in Long Beach...and we were looking for a home in southern California and a realtor came to me and I told him what my budget was, and he said "What about Long Beach?" And I said, "No way. I don't want any part of Long Beach." I remembered Long Beach from when I was a kid. And they brought us in, and they showed us around, a beautiful area, we ended up buying a house and we're very happy there. And now this airport issue has come back to kind of raise its head...

And I'm proud of my neighborhood and I'm proud to live in Long Beach. But I would certainly want to ask you guys, while you're being very concerned about the airport, I'd like to ask you to stop marketing it so vigorously. I'd like to ask you to start charging the planes when they land in the City of Long Beach, I'd like to start charging them per passengers when they land in the City of Long Beach and I'd like you to do that aggressively and to the fullest extent that you can.

Rae Gabelich

...I also would like to request a full EIR. I would like it to include air quality and also traffic projections and the impact on the area, the cumulative effect of all of this together on our city.

Also you had requested the economic impact upon adjoining property values, I'd like that to include all property within the flight path area as well, what's the economic impact on all of those residences...

...The three issues that I'd like to have you consider, as Ray Grabinski identified, and I think everybody else referred to was safety, health and quality of life. Safety, don't forget Cerritos [midair crash sent planes crashing into neighborhood]. Health, we are the 8th worst air quality in the nation. And the quality of life, if you need HUSH [1980's citizens group opposing flight increases] behind you, we can come back together and support you.

Mike Kowal

It's a pleasure to be here tonight and finally, it seems like we're all on the same page as regards to the airport and potential impact to not only the residents that live under...these flight paths but to the entire city, this is kind of a big deal here. And I think the vote out in El Toro, and those citizens realizing how important it is to retain their quality of life and make it as good as it can, should be something that we pay a lot of attention to and obviously is bringing this issue to the forefront tonight...

...Until we get to that 41 flight limit, which I think is going to be a very interesting and impacting event, I would too encourage the powers that be, the Airport not to continue to market any more flights out there. I'm very concerned about the 25 commuter flights and whatever that could bring us...

And in closing once again, I would like to encourage the Council and all of us together to find the best advice we can and get an independent EIR, very very important I believe, from the best possible source. Make sure it's full blown and addresses all of those things, including the human element of the EIR as well as look around and retain the best possible legal counsel we can find if we have to litigate this.

Mayor Beverly O'Neill

...I would like to commend Councilmember Carroll, and Councilmember Kell and Colonna and Rob Webb. I think that they are taking very seriously the directions and the concerns of their constituents on this.

The City of Long Beach has been marketing their airport. They are not doing it anymore, because we have reached the capacity that was ordered by the judge. And this has been something that we did try to market, and we had never reached any real capacity because most of the people were with start up airlines.

And we have talked with people in Washington about this, and I think that we do need to be cautious [with] what we're doing. The FAA feels we're going to tell them that we have local control over this, and we have been grandfathered and I'm very pleased that we have been to get this at the time because that does give us some protection, but I also know that we must proceed cautiously when we're dealing with people that feel that they have more control than we have over our particular area, and I'm very proud of the way we're doing this at this time...

Councilman Dennis Carroll

...Item 17, I would like to have the thoughts of the City Attorney officially before we proceed further down that road...

City Attorney Robert Shannon

...Since litigation's been threatened, I'm really limited in what I can say publicly, but I can assure each member of the public that we are in fact developing a legal strategy. We're conferring with outside counsel, in fact we have been conferring with outside counsel for some time now, and we will have an extensive closed session next Tuesday, approximately two hours, before the Council meeting, in which we're going to further develop our legal strategy.

This outside law firm is very experienced in aviation law, and more specifically very, very experienced with regard to similar issues.

I can further assure the public that we are committed to do whatever is legally possible to preserve the ordinance as it's presently constituted. That will be our goal.

Now with regard to the issue of an environmental impact report, let me just say the reason that Mr. Carroll was somewhat circumspect about his request is that, and I ask you to just try to bear with me on this, is that the nature of the environmental report, that is the issues to be addressed, will be in part dictated by the any decisions we make on the best legal strategy that we can follow here.

So since we're currently planning that strategy, the exact framework of the appropriate environmental report has not been thoroughly determined. We're certainly willing to engage in a report, but the exact parameters of that report must await further fleshing out, if you will, of the legal strategy that we plan to employ and that we will discuss at length next Tuesday [May 21] in closed session.

Mayor O'Neill: Mr. Taboada, do you have any comments?

City Manager Taboada: No, Madam Mayor. I reserve my comments for our closed session.

The Mayor then stated the motions one by one. Item 17 passed 9-0. Item 27 (verbatim text on link below) passed 9-0 preceded by brief comment by Councilwoman Kell. Item 28 was preceded by lengthier comments from Councilmember Robb Webb:

Councilman Rob Webb

...I would like at this time to ask all of my colleagues, and the Mayor, and each and every citizen of Long Beach, to join hands right now in this motion that I'm about to make. And I'd like to make a few comments of why Long Beach airport is unique.

As Councilmember Kell has mentioned, this issue has indeed been litigated for over 13 years. We've been sued by the residents for being too noisy. We've been sued by airport users for being too restrictive...

...The result of that litigation, the residents have accepted 41 flights over their houses and businesses and schools. I want to thank today the Airport Area Business Association for coming out and supporting the residents. This is a big deal to us and we want to thank you very much, because we want to acknowledge the fact that that is a big deal to have the airport businesses to come out and support these resolutions.

I want to let you know that our residents as well accept 41 flights and so on that I think we all have agreement. They feel however that their accepting these 41 flights, they have bent over backwards in accepting airport impacts in their neighborhoods.

41 flights is probably about the most number of flights this airport has ever had, and I don't think it's had that amount of flights since probably 1985. And they feel that they've gone more than doing their part in accepting that...

...John Deats made the comment that the SCAG projections were not complementary as to the amount of flights that Long Beach could take. I will take it a step further and say that I believe the SCAG projections were indeed incorrect for the amount of traffic that is going to increase in the next 25 years.

SCAG has made projections in the past that did not come to fruition as to the amount of air traffic that would be flying by this time. And we've all seen government entities, this one included, make projections that did not come true.

Lastly, I would like to comment on the fact that we have a lot of airports in this region, in the inland empire, in Palmdale, that are begging for this air traffic to come out their way...They [Palmdale] have an airport that has capacity, one million passengers. They have just enhanced their cargo handling capacity. They have no airlines serving their airport right now.

They are going to airlines asking for their service, and the response they get is, you're coming to us at LAX right now, why should we come to you? They feel, of course, that if they get some service out in their airport, their area is growing, they deserve to have flight service, certainly, all the airlines should not feel that only LAX basin can handle these, and that the areas that are growing in the outskirts, the inland empire, Palmdale certainly are good locations and they are out seeking these flights and I think we and our legislators should be supporting the efforts to direct growth that direction...

...I ask my colleagues on the City Council, I ask every member of this community, to join hands in support of this resolution of this City Council and our federal legislative and environmental affairs committee, in our efforts in Washington, D.C...

My motion is to adopt the resolution, with the additional "whereases" as mentioned by John Deats, because I think he had a couple of good additional whereases on his recommendations, and place this item on our federal legislative, environmental affairs committee advocacy agenda for action.

City Attorney Shannon: Excuse me Madam Mayor, I haven't even seen the "whereases." We're not in a position to accede to that. I would suggest that you adopt the resolution as it's presently formulated, otherwise we're going to have a problem here.

Mayor O'Neill: Let's do the resolution as it is and let them study that. You can bring that back, Rob.

Councilman Webb: I can bring that back? OK, I was just giving him the "whereases" right now.

Mayor O'Neill: Well, I think they need to study it. They don't just get it and read it. Rob, will you move the resolution as it is stated?

Councilman Webb: So moved.

And the motion to adopt the resolution (item 28) as stated passed 9-0.

The three items as agendized were:

On May 13, the City Clerk's office received and released the text of the two proposed resolutions, which were ultimately adopted as is by the City Council on May 14. They can be viewed in pdf form at:

  • Reaffirming & supporting LB's existing airport noise compatibility ordinance

  • Supporting city's Wash. DC lobbying effort to maintain and preserve LB airport noise compatibility ordinance

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