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Councilwoman ToniaReyes-Uranga : ...You had mentioned that there's 35 train trips a day yet they have the capacity for 150. Can you maybe quickly say why it's not being utilized like it should?Mr. Hankla: Well, I think that essentially the Alameda Corridor is used by the railroads currently to move unit trains, those trains that come off that are already made up for a certain destination. Using it for random cars does not currently work, because the random cars would be handled by the shuttle trains. So essentially, if they get a train that's large enough coming off the on dock rail or the Union Pacific ICTF, then they would take that train down the Alameda Corridor and it would move all the way through the various yards to points east. But the random cars, in other words, off the boat comes a variety of containers destined for different locations. Getting those random cars destined for those different locations into one train going to Kansas City or Chicago is where the challenge of rail operations really lies.
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Councilwoman Jackie Kell:...These initiatives that you talked about, and the issue of eminent domain would be removed from the solution, is that what you're saying?Mr. Hankla: Well what I'm saying, Councilmember Kell, is that to the extent that we're able effectuate SR 47 and to the extent that we are able to effectuate shuttle trains to inland intermodal terminals, it will substantially minimize the kind of improvement that needs to be made to the 710. Now I would hope, it would be my hope, that that could reduce substantially or perhaps eliminate the need for eminent domain.
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...Councilman Val Lerch: ...Why have we bought into as a city the building and expanding [of] the Port? Why are we on this track of getting the biggest Port in the world? How does it benefit this city as a whole? Why are we at this? Because they came along and said they were going to take the Navy Station away, so we had to find out something to do with the Navy Station, and now somebody decided, and now we're on this track to make it the biggest in the world? Why don't we tell the world we're done? Don't build anymore. Long Beach has taken it. Why don't we take and close down Treasure Island in San Francisco and use that as the goods to all the world. There are other alternatives and nobody's answered that question why we've decided the Port's a place to be, other than an ego for the city. What does it benefit the city of Long Beach in the long run? And I question that, and nobody's been able to answer that....I think the reality is about 90% of the trucks coming out of the Port [use the 710], so we need to get some alternative truck routes, we need to make some laws that say that only so many trucks can go along the 710, in other words there's all kinds of alternatives that we can do that nobody's explored just by directing the laws...
...Councilman Rob Webb: ...[T]he unused capacity on that [Alameda Corridor] rail line is something that we all need to look at. I have been involved in the staff side of the Alameda Corridor Transportation Authority since its inception, and serve right now as the city's alternate to that Board, behind [Vice Mayor] Frank Colonna. He's never absent at any meetings so I don't get to go do much, but in any event, I've been aware of what's [been in] the planning phases of ACTA for many years, and I think it was always very clear that Alameda Corridor was not going to eliminate all of our freeway problems. However, if we didn't build the Alameda Corridor we would certainly see much more impacts to our 710 and our surface streets...The question I have Jim, maybe you can address this real quick, is what is needed for us to utilize the capacity within the Alameda Corridor rail system? Obviously infrastructure needs on both ends are going to need to be addressed for us to use that capacity?
Mr. Hankla: The principal needs, Councilmember Webb, and Mayor and members of the Council, is for two terminals to be built in the inland empire that would serve the two railroads, and that sufficient rolling stock, or a configuration of trains that would be essentially the shuttle trains that would move the random containers up to those terminals. From those terminals they would either be assembled into unit trains for movement east, or they would be trucked to other terminals where they would be
re-stuffed into perhaps other containers for movement east, or trucked to other terminal locations for distribution...
...Councilwoman Laura Richardson: ...What's the cost difference of shipping for example on the Alameda Corridor on the rail versus what someone pays to ship on the freeway?
Mr. Hankla: What we're currently doing is a rather in depth study on goods movement and container movements, and we are developing that information, we'll have it very shortly. Suffice it to say that at the present time, that if you're planning to move a box, say, to a distribution center in the inland empire or...to Las Vegas or Phoenix, it is cheaper to move it by truck. And analyzing the economics of good movement, and changing that in favor of cleaner rail, is one of the challenges that we're addressing.
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Mayor O'Neill: Do they have the rails for that?Mr. Hankla: The rails are there. What's not there are the terminals. The terminals are very large areas, approximately three to four-hundred acres that have the ability to make up trains, to move the random boxes for unit configuration for transport east or to move them to distribution terminals for
re-stuffing into larger containers.
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Councilman Lerch: Mr. Hankla, how much would it cost to build those terminals out in the inland empire? Do you have a figure on that?Mr. Hankla: Yes, Councilmember Lerch, members of the City Council. Early estimates, and I emphasize this early estimates, the two terminals would cost about $1 billion.
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